The Irrationality of Protestant Theology Demonstrated By Protestants (Part 2) - Apologetics for the Masses #541

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Topic

The irrationality of Protestantism highlighted by some responses I received to a previous newsletter.

Introduction

In Issue #539 of this newsletter Apologetics for the Masses #539 - which I sent out about 3 weeks ago, I focused on how Protestantism is the antithesis of Jesus' prayer for unity among His followers that we find in John 17:20-23. He prayed to the Father at the Last Supper that those who believed in Him through the words of the Apostles - i.e., Christians - would be one as He and the Father are one. Perfectly one He prayed. Protestantism, however, by its very nature - where every individual gets to read the Bible on their own and decide for themselves what is, and is not, authentic Christian belief and practice - works in opposition to Jesus' prayer. And I showed how and why in the last newsletter.

That newsletter obviously hit a nerve with a couple of Protestants - Bookman Jim (aka Jim Andrews) and Tim Duma - both of whom are apparently long-time readers of the newsletter and both of whom have been featured in past newsletters (Issues #435-436, and #473-476, respectively). Anyway, in response to Issue #539, they both felt the need to send me an email challenging me with arguments about their particular Protestant beliefs. As I said in the last issue, I think things like that happen when someone hears an argument that strikes an inner cord with them, but instead of rationally and dispassionately examining the argument further - and possibly having to reconsider what it is they believe and why - they instead go after the person making the argument, so as to drown out that inner voice that's saying to them, "Ya know, this guy is making a pretty decent argument." So, rather than an honest search for truth, they cope with any challenge to their beliefs by refusing to engage the actual arguments being made, and instead launching into unrelated arguments. That's their coping mechanism - avoidance of anything that might possibly show their beliefs to be wrong.

Anyway, last issue I featured the email from, and ensuing dialogue with, Bookman Jim. His particular wacky version (denomination) of Protestantism is such that he believes everyone who calls the Messiah by any name other than His Hebrew name - Yahshuah - is not really a Christian and is headed to Hell. So, if you call the Messiah, "Jesus," well...too bad...off to eternal flames you go. Because if you call upon the name of the Lord, by using the wrong name - such as "Jesus" - then, guess what? He doesn't answer you and you are just...well...damned. It seems He only answers to the name, "Yahshuah". The biggest problem for Bookman Jim, though, is that the Holy Spirit inspired the authors of the New Testament to write most, if not all, of the books of the N.T., in Greek. And in those Greek originals, the Messiah is called by His Greek name, which is "Iesous". It seems, the Holy Spirit, the 3rd Person of the Trinity, apparently does not know that Yahshuah is the only name that is to be used when referring to the 2nd Person of the Trinity...at least, according to Bookman Jim's theology. Anyway, I have asked Bookman Jim to explain that oh so slight problem with his theology several times, and he simply refuses to do so. I wonder why? Which led me to terminate our dialogue until such time as he can directly address my argument on that matter.

In this issue, I'll print the email I received from Tim Duma, and my subsequent dialogue with him (such as it is). Tim's particular wacky version (denomination) of Protestantism believes in this thing called the "Right Division" of Scripture (aka "Hyper-Dispensationalism"). It's literally about dividing up the Scriptures into parts and each part is supposedly only relevant to particular peoples and particular dispensations (ages) of salvation history. And I'm not talking about the division between the Old Testament (Hebrew Scriptures) and New Testament (Christian Scriptures). According to these folks, for example, Jesus and Paul preached entirely different Gospels. Jesus was preaching the "Kingdom Gospel" in which He was supposed to be crowned king by the Jews and establish His kingdom on earth - the "Kingdom Gospel". I guess He didn't know that wasn't going to happen. Anyway, when it didn't happen, God apparently switched to Plan B and gave Paul the "Gospel of Grace" for the Gentiles and the Church Age. Thank goodness for Paul! So, the letters of Paul are meant for us Christians, whereas the Gospels and significant parts of the rest of the New Testament are not. Although, Tim's version of "Right Division" is even more extreme than the others I've come across. He will literally "rightly divide" single verses of Scripture. The 1st half of the verse is meant for this particular dispensation, while the 2nd half of the verse is meant for this other dispensation. You might call his version of this theology "Hyper Hyper-Dispensationalism".

Anyway, his email to me, and our subsequent dialogue, are below. The conversation might be a bit difficult to follow. Actually, it might be a bit painful to follow. I had some difficulty piecing his stuff together to make it even partially understandable. Just remember, the whole point of this is to show how absolutely bizarre and irrational Protestant theology can be. Yet, Tim's theology, as is Bookman Jim's theology, is absolutely affirmed, justified, and avowed by Protestantism. Tim, and Bookman Jim, believe in Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura, so they are "saved"! They are part of the church. Which means, their theology is part of the church's theology. Which demonstrates, with a great deal of clarity, that Protestantism, with its core belief of allowing anyone and everyone who can read to just pick up a Bible and decide for themselves what is, and is not, authentic Christian belief and practice, stands diametically opposed to Jesus' prayer for unity in the truth amongst His followers that we see Him praying in John 17:20-23.

So, I'll start off below with the email he sent me a few weeks back challenging me, in a very "manly" way, to a live debate.

Challenge/Response/Strategy

Tim Duma of Lowell, Indiana
John,

This is Tim Duma. I still get your emails, and I am still convinced you know very little BIBLE, you just know some “Perret theology” from a twisted catholic bias perspective! I say that from two FACTS, one is that you did NOT publish my responses (as you said you would), which makes you a liar! And the other is by reading your responses compared to what the BIBLE actually says!

So, let's see if I can PROVE the two statements above!   I challenge you to a live bible debate! I offer to cover all expenses to travel to Lowell, Indiana (hotel, meals, transportation, etc.), where we can have a live debate and stream it on YouTube for ALL to see! WE can work out all the details; you can invite anyone you like for support, and let’s see if you take the challenge!!!   We agree to a professional debate and will have questions ahead of time so YOU can have all the time you need to prepare!

The question is, are you man enough for the challenge!! I don’t think you will “man-up”!

Tim Duma

My Response
Tim,

You stated two "facts" (according to you). Let's look at those "facts," shall we?

"Fact" #1 - "You did NOT publish my responses (as you said you would), which makes you a liar!"

Well, Tim, check out the two links below. These are my newsletters #475 and #476, which have been on my website since April and May, respectively, of 2024 - so almost two years now.

https://www.biblechristiansociety.com/newsletter/678-apologetics-for-the-masses-475-the-right-division-of-scripture-part-3

https://www.biblechristiansociety.com/newsletter/679-apologetics-for-the-masses-476-the-right-division-of-scripture-part-4

Plus, I included our dialogue in the two newsletters before those - Issues #473 and #474 - which you can find on the "Newsletter" page of my website: www.biblechristiansociety.com/newsletter. In four newsletters I printed what you said - word for word - and yet you accuse me of being a liar!? How dare you! And you call yourself a Christian?! Really?! Do Christians lie about other people, Tim? Was the Holy Spirit guiding you on this?

The "FACT" is, Tim, that I did indeed publish your responses. So, no, I am not a liar. You are the liar. And, in addition to being a liar, you're also a jackass. So, I expect an apology for your false accusation.

"Fact" #2 - "And the other is by reading your responses compared to what the BIBLE actually says!"

And, of course, you gave absolutely ZERO examples of where and how what I said differed from what the Bible says. Which is why I ended our conversation, Tim, because you are, apparently, incapable of giving answers to questions, and replies to arguments, that are direct and to the point and that are actually relevant to the questions asked and the arguments made. You wander all over the place with your answers, and, I noticed, in most, if not all, of your answers you're telling me what the Bible means - according to Tim Duma - as opposed to quoting what the Bible actually says. Over and over and over again you gave me the Word of Tim as opposed to the Word of God.

You would tell me, "Oh, this passage is meant for these people and that half verse was meant for those people, and this passage means this and this other passage means that..." and so on. Yet, not once could you show me...NOT ONCE!!!...where the Bible ever actually said the things you were saying. It was all your personal, fallible, non-authoritative interpretations of the Word of God that you were giving me. And, when I asked you where in the Bible does the Bible give directions as to which passages refer to which peoples and in which church ages and so on, what was your answer? You had none. You couldn't cite one passage of the Bible that said any such thing. All you could give me was your personal, fallible, non-authoritative OPINIONS as to these things. Again...the Word of Tim that you diabolically tried to pass off as the Word of God.

So, given all of that - the fact that you lied about me not publishing your responses; the fact that you cannot produce Bible verses that say what you claim the Bible says, the fact that you have made false accusations about me, the fact that you cannot give direct, succinct, and specific answers to very simple questions - why would I ever want to waste my time by flying to Indiana to debate you? In a debate, a person has to give direct, succinct, and specific answers - you are incapable of doing so.

But, I'm always willing to give people 2nd chances, so in this case I'll give you what is actually a fourth or fifth chance. If you can show me that you are actually capable of engaging in a short, written debate, about one specific passage of the Bible, in which you give direct, succinct, and relevant answers, then I will consider taking you up on your challenge. But, if you show that you are incapable of engaging in a meaningful short debate in writing, then why would I waste my time to fly to Indiana just to waste more of my time in a debate with someone who can't stick to the subject?!

So, if you're willing to "Man-Up"...if you're "man enough for the challenge"...then here goes:

In John 6:51, Jesus says, "I am the living bread which came down from Heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh." So, my 1st question for you, to start off this mini-debate, is this: When did Jesus give His flesh for the life of the world?

Are you "man enough" to dare attempt to answer? (Remember - direct, succinct, and relevant answers.)

And, just so you know, if you send me an email with anything other than the answer to my question, then you will have proven that you are incapable of conducting a mature, rational, logical debate and I will simply have all your future emails automatically sent to my "Trash" folder for deletion.

In Christ Jesus,

John Martignoni
Member of the True Church of Jesus Christ

Comments/Strategy
Now, before anyone writes to me about my "tone," sorry, but when I encounter folks who, right out of the gate, come on as strong and boorish as this guy, I simply tend to reflect what I'm getting. Especially if there is a history of him being this way in his communications to me, which there is. Plus, I quite often use the strategy of trying to provoke the other guy in order to get under his skin even more than I apparently already have. I think, though, he may be the only person I've ever called a jackass in one of these newsletters. Anyway, as it turns out, in this case, this guy is so bizarre that I don't really need to get under his skin in order for him to go off the rails. He's a train wreck from beginning to end.

Essentialy, I just directly addressed his "two FACTS," and then I addressed his debate challenge. I did the latter by simply asking him to demonstrate that he could, in fact, debate, as opposed to simply spewing nonsense that has little to nothing to do with the arguments made or the questions asked. If he could show me that he was capable of having an actual "professional" debate, then I would have at least considered flying up to Lowell, Indiana, to have a debate with him. But I knew the chances of him being able to demonstrate that capability were little to none.  (By the way, he mentions "Perret theology". I have no idea what he's talking about.)

All I asked him to do was answer one question - one question! - about John 6:51. Do you think he was able to do that? See his next response below.

Tim Duma
John,

You only published “part” of my response [Note: he's referring to our dialogue from a few years ago], the exact same thing EVERY false teacher will do, as they learned it from the Devil in Genesis Chapter 3, (he changed, added, or subtracted,) from what was actually said to get a private interpretation, false, or half-truth! I will put my FULL response below so you can see it again! So, you will have to do two things: either apologize to me for NOT including my response, or apologize for “maybe” missing it! But John, I deal with ALL the “Christian cults”, Christ of Christ, Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Science, Unity Church, Charismatic movement, and the KING of Christian cults, the Roman Catholic cult! And all, without exception, do the exact same thing: they can NOT take TRUTH at face value and will RUN when confronted with it!

So let's back up and see what you left off and were afraid to publish (FACTS). In the #472 newsletter, you addressed this topic: “Eight Questions for a Catholic from a Baptist.” I read your answers, and I thought either this Baptist doesn't know his bible very well OR you are NOT publishing his entire answers! This is what prompted me to write to you and offer to answer these eight questions! After we communicated, you agreed to let me do this, BUT first you asked me several questions, which you did publish. But when it came down to me answering only the very first question? 1) What is the gospel? You did NOT publish my answers or rebuttal to them! So, I figured you just like the typical cult can't handle truth, bail, Run, don’t answer! You just told your subscribers you were done communicating with me! NOW look at my response on 04/08/2024 to this first question that never made it to your newsletter, THE MAIN REASON WE FIRST STARTED COMMUNICATION!

Now, let's look at the first question you went over! And I will answer it from the perfect book, the KJV, and give you a rightly dividing answer!

[NOTE to the Reader: The lines with a triple asterisk in front of them are my words, the rest are from Mr. Duma.]

[This is the first of the Eight Questions for a Catholic from a Baptist Minister published in Issue #472]

1. What is the gospel? Or another way of asking the same question, how do you believe that someone becomes a Christian and has their sins forgiven?

***What is the gospel? The gospel by which you are saved is this: “Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures,” (1 Cor 15:1-4).

John, I would say YES, this is the Gospel for believers today, under the age of grace! I would agree with this statement! I wrote it here in the King James because it is perfect! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV) Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

***How does someone become a Christian? A Christian is a member of the Body of Christ, right? How does Scripture tell us one becomes a member of the Body of Christ? Through Baptism.

John, you just lied, no one is saved by water baptism today (I am assuming this is what baptism you are referring to)! John If you agree that the Gospel is 1:Cor 15:1-4 then where is the water found anywhere in these passages???? There is NO water baptism found anywhere in the description!! You have to ADD that to the verse! (John just like the devil adds and subtracts from the word) Now let’s look at the scriptures you give (1 Cor 12:13; John, this verse has to do with the one body of Christ and has NOTHING to do with water baptism, this is a spiritual baptism that puts the believer INTO the one body of Jesus Christ at the new birth, This spiritual baptism is necessary for eternal life, Rom 6:3-4, you have to add physical water to come up with a private interpretation!    Gal 3:27; This is again a spiritual baptism God is doing the work, putting a believer in the body of Christ, NOT man getting wet by H 2 0!! Col 2:11-12) . John a great truth that has absolutely NOTHING to do with water (your private interpretation again with NO bible) these 2 verses have to do with when someone gets saved what happens to their soul and body. The unsaved man is IN the flesh because his spiritual body (soul) is attached to his natural body (Rom 7:1-4). At the new birth, the Holy Ghost circumcises the soul from the body with a spiritual knife (Hebrews 4:12). The soul is regenerated and loosed from the flesh, and it is joined to the Spirit of God (Rom 8:9). This spiritual, laser surgery is called the operation of God! (this is a great truth on eternal security which is a BIBLE doctrine)

***How does someone have their sins forgiven? 1) Through Baptism (Ezek 36:25-29;

John you are kidding me using this scripture to prove your false teaching, you must deal with pretty ignorant baby bible students! You pulled this passage out of context and did not rightly divide it as I laid this in my opening foundational remarks! Vs 25-29 have to do with the purification of the Jews (not the church in the NT) Num 8:7. Water is the instrument of the first birth (John 3;5-6), not the second birth (Prov 5:15-18. Isa 48:1), Water purification was cleansing for the body, not the soul (Num 19:9) READ THE REFERENCE!!! This passage promises the glorious restoration of the nation of Israel during the Millennium Ezekiel 36:21-38. Read the passage John, how can you miss it!!!   Acts 2:38; John congratulations, NOW we finally got to the number one passage in the Bible where more people will interpret wrong and go to hell (you have hundreds of millions of people thinking this is how folks get saved today) (including yourself, if I am reading you correctly), and I will show you WHY and HOW this is NOT true! And of course, it comes down to the right division of the scriptures! The context of Acts chapter 2 is Isreal and Jerusalem, Pentecost v1, Jerusalem v5, Judaea (came for Pentecost) v14, look at v22-35, YE MEN OF ISRAEL (Peters message was addressed to the Jewish men of ISREAL, NOT Christians, a Jewish profit (Peter) delivered a message about the Jewish Messiah to the JEWS)!!! V33 Peter is accusing the Jews of delivering Jesus Christ to the Jewish elders to crucify and murder The Lord Jesus! V36 House of Israel, whom ye have crucified   Now John since we have the correct context, and WHO Peter is talking about JEWS, NOT Christians (John you are reading other people’s mail, Jewish mail NOT gentile mail) we now getting to the verse you pulled out of context to get your false teaching, v 37 The question is vital. It is NOT the same question as a saved sinner’s question OR an unsaved Gentile question (Acts 9:6, Acts 16:30). It is similar to the question asked by John the Baptist (Luke 3:10-14), The question was asked by a natural body of Jewish people about a national responsibility of the national guilt for the murder of innocent blood (Matt 27:25) v38 is the MOST misapplied verse that has been inserted into the creeds of many cults, denominations, and sects as connected with a heresy called “baptismal regeneration”. They claim Acts 2:38 for their plan of salvation, but MOST of these cults and sects teach that they MUST be administered by their “church” or “order” to be “regenerated”! This private interpretation of Acts 2:38 varies among cuts and sects, such as water baptism is a means of regeneration, it is a vehicle of grace, it is essential to salvation, sins are washed away in baptism, it is sprinkled upon a baby, or it must be administered in the name of Jesus Christ only. ALL the proponents of Acts 2:38 ASSUME that baptism equals water and water equals baptism. (John that’s what you did in the above verses I proved you wrong). These cults and sects also believe that salvation through physical water can be lost, BUT there is no need for water the second time???(This is Comical) Other verses that are misapplied are John 3:5, Acts 22:16, Romans 6:3-4, Gal 3:27, Col 2:12, and 1Peter 3:20-21, ALL ignore the doctrines of seven baptisms and that a gentile receives the gift of the Holy Ghost BEFORE water baptism Acts 10:44(Gal 3:14) They also fail to recognize that not ONE Apostle received the Holy Ghost by this formula of Acts 2:38, and the Jews worshiped in a temple, NOT in a church building. NOW let me easily explain this once we correctly KNOW the context, and WHO Peter was addressing! The Gift of the Holy Ghost V38 was given upon water baptism BECAUSE this was a JEWISH WATER BAPTISM. This is a variation of the baptism of John the Baptist. See Acts 13:24, Acts 19:4-5!   This was repentance for the Jews because they were involved in killing their Messiah! Remember The Lord forgave them in Luke 23:34 and is giving them a second chance! (If you watched the video on Dispensations, it covers this in detail). By NOT understanding this many folks get the bad teaching of needing water to get the Holy Ghost in our current church age we are living today! Also the word ‘for” in the passage means because of; such as, a man was arrested for stealing (because of). The phrase for the remission of sins means that God had forgiven someone. In the OT sins were remitted or forgiven on the basis of the blood of certain animals, but the sins were NOT cleared (Ex34:17, Heb 9:22;10:4) In the NT the remission of sins and the redemption of the soul are FREELY offered on the basis of the PURE BLOOD of the Lamb of God, with NO wafer, water, or ANY works involved (Matt 26:28, John 1:29, Rom 3:25, Heb 9:14) IT is pure GRACE! Hopefully you NOW understand this is NOT the same Gospel that we read about in 1 Cor 15 1:4. There is no mention of the death, burial, and resurrection for a person's sins! (You pulled it out of its context to get a private interpretation)!   Simple thing to remember IF it is different, IT cannot be the same!

I will stop here for now so you can have time to try to rebuttal these truths IF you can! (I will continue to answer every statement you made down to question 8, but as you can see your foundation on baptism is completely WRONG). Will address these other scriptures easily after I see you publish my response to just your first question: Acts 22:16); and 2) By confessing your sin to the elders (John 20:21-23; Matt 9:6,8; James 5:14-16

Now John just to give you a little about myself, because, it is important to KNOW who is corresponding with you, I am a retired senior businessman whose entire family was raised in the Roman Catholic cult, SO I am speaking from experience of being deceived by this false religious system and great whore of Rev 17-18. By the grace of God, my entire family and I have been saved and delivered from the devil's clutches. Amen & Amen!!! Some of my family members have gone to heaven already (not man-made purgatory) and some of us are waiting for the blessed hope (Titus 2:13) to be raptured out or called home naturally! I have never doubted my salvation in 37 years BECAUSE my God, The Lord Jesus is NOT an Indian giver Jesus who will take back His free gift! (another false teaching of many cults and sects)   John like an ex-smoker, or ex-drunkard, or ex-catholic once you leave the cesspool of bad garbage, you are its best opponent for speaking against it! John, believe it or not, I am saying this with “grace” and truth (John 1:17b), if I did not care I would NOT spend this time writing you, hopefully, you and your readers will see their error and repent!

Tim (Saved by the blood of The Lord Jesus Christ, and serving because of His grace)

John, I will wait for two things I will never get from you! An apology, and you agreeing to a professional debate, cults can NOT handle the TRUTH! Let's see if I am right!

BTW, there are many examples in just this first response to illustrate that you do NOT know what the bible says!

Tim

My Comments
Okay, what did you think of that? This is why I ended our dialogue a few years ago and this is why I ended it again recently. First of all, did he answer my one question that I asked him to answer to show that he could respond directly to questions that were asked of him? Absolutely not. Well, forget any thought of me flying to Indiana to "debate" someone like that. It wouldn't be a debate, but a slog through one big pile of horse manure.

I mean, I had to go back to the newsletters from a couple of years ago to figure out what he was talking about. And, not only do his words not make sense, but the way he jumbles everything all together makes it fairly difficult, if not impossible, to follow what the heck he's even trying to say! In the end, though, everything he claims all depends on the "Right Division" of Scripture. And, what is his authority for his interpretations of Scripture? He has never given me an answer. At least, not one that made any sense. According to his previous emails, his "authority" amounts to nothing more than him essentially saying that he's a "spiritual man," so his authority comes from the King James Bible and the Holy Spirit, except when he possibly makes mistakes, and then it doesn't, but he's infallible when he's not making mistakes. Huh?

And, where is the key to rightly dividing the Scripture - how does one know which verses apply to which eras and peoples of salvation history - found in the Bible? Never got an answer to that. Why not? Because it's nowhere in the Bible, that's why! Tim, and all those who think and believe as he does, simply make this garbage up as they go along. He cannot give me one verse of the Bible that tells one how to "rightly divide" the Bible. Not one. It is completely done by subjective whim.

Now, he accused me of only publishing "part" of his response to me a few years ago when we first engaged in "dialogue". Well, here's the thing. In Issue #472, I published "Eight Questions From a Protestant [Baptist] Minister". And in that newsletter, after I answered the 8 questions from the Baptist minister, I turned it around and asked, "Eight Questions For a Baptist Minister". That is the original newsletter Tim Duma responded to. He said he could "easily" answer my eight questions for a Baptist minister (turns out he's Baptist and, apparently, sometimes preaches in his Baptist church). So I told him to have at answering those questions and that I would be happy to publish his answers. However, I never told him I would publish anything and everything he ever sent to me. After a few rounds of dialogue - all published in the newsletters - guess what? He had not answered a single one of those eight questions. He kept getting farther and farther away from doing so and his responses got more and more disjointed and outright whacky. That's the main reason why I stopped publishing his emails in the newsletters, and in my emails to him I told him that I was done publishing what he wrote because he refused to deal directly with the arguments/questions that I raised and because he never even attempted to answer the original Eight Questions for a Baptist Minister like he said he would.

But, even though I told him I was done putting his stuff in the newsletter, I still carried on a few more rounds of emails with him privately to see if he might, eventually, try to answer those original eight questions. So, what you see in his email above, is one of those follow up emails from him that did not make it into the newsletter - for obvious reasons. Basically, what happened, was that when I told him I was done publishing his responses because he never answered those eight questions, all of a sudden he sends me an email attempting to answer the eight questions. Problem is, instead of answering the 8 questions I asked of the Baptist minister, he simply started slamming my answers to the 8 questions the Baptist minister asked of Catholics. That's what he was starting to do above with his comments on the "What is the gospel?" question. And what are his issues with my answers to the Baptist minister's 8 questions? Well, everything he says boils down to him basically claiming this: "John, you're an idiot who doesn't understand the Bible because you don't agree with my private, fallible interpretations of the Bible which are based on how I rightly divide the Bible, which is based on my fallible judgment of how I believe it should be divided." Sorry, but when you're dealing with someone like that, there's only so much of their unhinged ramblings that you can take.

But, again, not only was his response a wee bit out of kilter, but he was responding to the wrong questions! So, no, I'm not going to publish unhinged, off topic, garbage like that. He starts off in his first contact with me saying he can easily answer my questions, then he never answers my questions! But he wants me to keep publishing everything he sends to me. Sorry, but I simply decided to rightly divide his responses.

Summary
Okay, if you've stayed with me this long, all of this is to show, again, one of, if not the, basic flaws of Protestantism. People like Tim Duma are allowed to read the Bible for themselves and are authorized, by the fundamental principle upon which Protestantism is based...answering to no authority other than their own imagination...to come up with their own theology - no matter how absurd, fringe, and incredibly ridiculous - and have it be considered perfectly acceptable by that which is Protestantism. All he need do is believe he's saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone (Sola Fide) and in Sola Scriptura.

Conclusion: Protestantism, at its core...in its very nature...is inherently contrary to Jesus' prayer for unity among His followers that He prayed at the Last Supper, as found in John 17:20-23. As long as Protestantism exists, Jesus' prayer for unity amongst His followers will never be realized.

Closing Comments

Next issue will be a conversation with another Baptist that is much more readable and nowhere near as trying.

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